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Reply #15February 08, 2008, 09:04:33 pm

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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 09:04:33 pm »
OK, well I want to try replacing the pump first as it won't hurt to have a new pump (especially a High Volume one) and since I have to open the pan to inspect the pick up screen I might as well change it. Can you recommend where I can order a 36mm Pump? It will be several months before I can tear down the engine long enough to swap out the bearings so for now I will hope to buy some time.

I really want to save my money for 1.9L IDI rather than invest to much in my  1.6L.if I can and just need to get my 1.6 to last until the end of summer or maybe just before winter.

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Reply #16February 09, 2008, 11:47:27 am

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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 11:47:27 am »
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I use 15w-30w now.


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Before changing pumps and everything, i'd change that oil, and use a proper filter, as others have already recommended doing.

15w40 or mabye a 15w50.

My old gassers would set the light and buzzer off when i used 10w30, changed to 10w40 and never came on again.
Cheap and simply solution.

Reply #17February 09, 2008, 02:22:02 pm

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2008, 02:22:02 pm »
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After 10-15 minutes he's at 1-2psi at idle.  
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ahh i missed that part.
If thats the case it may just be the cheap temporary bandaid fix he is looking for.

Reply #18February 09, 2008, 10:08:47 pm

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2008, 10:08:47 pm »
I will try the 15w-50w and a Mann filter first. I do a lot of driving. I will probably put another 5000-10000 miles on the engine before I pull it so I hope it can last that long.

I like this site a lot, you guys really are very helpful and not condescending like some other sites. You all deserve some serious pats on the backs:)


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Reply #19February 09, 2008, 10:26:40 pm

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2008, 10:26:40 pm »
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Sorry it has been awhile since I have updated this but I parked the car until now to make sure it won't get worse until I had the chance to install the pressure gauge.

So I had installed it today and here is what I have to report.

Cold (just started up) the pressure was almost 40 at the head at idle.

3-4 minutes later the pressure was down to 20 at idle.

10 minutes later it was down to 1-2 at idle.

Now if I am driving down the road in 5th the pressure is about 20.

What does this mean? Is my Oil Pump hosed??

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hmmm so you only tested at the head? any testing done at the flange?  the flange should read a different (higher) pressure.  try that  :)


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Reply #20February 10, 2008, 08:31:24 am

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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2008, 08:31:24 am »
What flange? I will check it as well and report my findings.

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Reply #21February 10, 2008, 11:18:06 am

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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2008, 11:18:06 am »
oil filter flange.  take off the oil pressure sender and install your gauge there.  oil pressure should be quite a bit higher there.


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Reply #22February 10, 2008, 04:41:51 pm

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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2008, 04:41:51 pm »
The flange is where you can measure for the one official oil pressure spec VW give:

2 bar (29psi),  at 2000 RPM,  with the engine at normal operating temperature (rad fan has cycled once).

Having said that,  1-2 psi at the head is pretty darn low, regardless of what you read at the flange.
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