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Can I force more air into a NA?
by
DieselSteed
on 06 Nov, 2007 06:55
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Just wondering if anyone has bolted on an electric supercharger on a NA motor or has tried other means of forced induction for their naturally aspirated powerplant? I dont need to run it full time, just need a little more power for the hills. What do you guys think?
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#1
by
subsonic
on 06 Nov, 2007 07:06
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#2
by
zukgod1
on 06 Nov, 2007 07:54
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Electric supercharger? Um hello?
I'm not going to bash ya everyone has wondered about those things.
They just dont work plain and simple.
If you want more air either build a ram air from your grill or cowl or just step up and get a turbo.
dan
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#3
by
Ziptar
on 06 Nov, 2007 08:02
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If you buy an "electric super charger" make sure you also get chrome fuel and oil caps and keep them polished that adds 10 HP also. :wink:
You could also bolt a turbo onto it and go without an LDA like an EcoDiesel, more air but not more fuel. I would think in that case adding a turbo to an NA engine without the oil squirters wouldn't actually hurt anything. Without the extra fuel exhaust temps an engine stresses would be nil, I would guess.
That would be the right way to do it.
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#4
by
DieselSteed
on 07 Nov, 2007 06:07
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Thanks for your input. I do appreciate it. I would rather ask a dumb question then to spend a lot of money on something that doesn’t work. I was doubting the effectiveness of a vacuum cleaner motor used to assist air flow… that is why I ran it passed the experts. As for the chrome, I think a G60 valve cover might actually help if you might have one to donate
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#5
by
burn_your_money
on 07 Nov, 2007 08:47
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I think a G60 valve cover might actually help if you might have one to donate
That's why I bought one for my truck
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#6
by
blkboostedtruck
on 07 Nov, 2007 17:17
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my G60 valve cover is full polished and it helps alot! I can't balieve the difference! get yours polished (burn your money) and feel the power!
Duane
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#7
by
jtanguay
on 07 Nov, 2007 19:01
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lol you guys... i know its hard to resist knocking electric superchargers... but why not help this dude out with some useful info? check out jake's variable vane thread. he basically put a VNT-15 turbo onto his dad's rabbit 1.6 N/A. it then became quite zoomy and spiked the gauge (and blew a boost tube)
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1306&highlight=project+potential+variable+vanejust run with the vanes open all day long, and have an ajuster cable somewhere under the dash. close the vanes and enjoy the hill climbing power
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#8
by
Turbinepowered
on 07 Nov, 2007 23:23
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Once you force air into an N/A, doesn't it stop being a Naturally Aspirated engine?
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#9
by
Zulfiqar
on 08 Nov, 2007 02:27
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Ive put a roots on a toyota corolla diesel, useless waste of money - firstly you need a crank pulley so big its funny, because the SC pulley is magnetic, next you need at least 12000 revs of the SC to get a paltry 15 psi boost.
my experience is junk - maybe some other SC would be good, I put up an IHI VF10- on it and an LDA pump, best thing for the wheezing 2C diesel.
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#10
by
DieselSteed
on 08 Nov, 2007 07:30
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Thanks jtanguay for the link. That was some good reading. I would like a VNT for the Caddy. I think I will go the route Ziptar suggests and bolt a K03 that’s been laying in the garage and make myself an econo-ride. I was just looking for an easy fix, but I guess if the electric SC was worth a damn, Vw would have done it that way in the first place. Thanks again for the input.