help please

[88jetta]

yeah but these people here are saying a 1.6TD can rip apart sum vr6s. wouldnt a td at least be able 2 make 150whp 2 catch up 2 a vr?

[BlackTieTD]

yes but not with a few quick changes. research and plan your attack, or pay someone to do that for you. all the info you need is searchable.

[88jetta]

allright thanks dude i think ill do that. id really would like to keep that TD in there i just need it 2 have more zoom

[Wolfsbur]

As far as TD power (indirect injection, no computer,  like your Jetta) is concerned--there is a MK2 Golf I see around here.  The owner (Bill) claims 160hp at the wheels,  with propane.  So many folks boast about their numbers,  so I don't know how accurate this is.  This car beats my VR,  every time,  up to 65/70 mph.

Rennen Performance in Brunswick,  Maine did the work on a local MK 4 TDI (direct injection with computer controls),  and they claim a corrected chassis dyno figure of 200 hp and over 400 lbs tq--at the wheels.  Daily driver.  Power all the time,  anytime (in the rev range).  Monster twist!

My VR makes its power,  starting at 3200 rpm--the TDs and TDIs I've driven are ready to shift up around there.  

The VR has 20 headbolts (PITA) and requires 6 qts oil per change.  The timing chains fail--even the updated single row design with the new style tensioner don't last too long if you hammer on it often (gotta pull the tranny to replace the chains).  There are two coolant pumps--one is electric,  and is pretty failure prone.  Heads suffer from errosion/corrosion issues.  The cooling system has quite a bit of plastic that cracks and fails (the VR runs VERY hot--my oil temps range from 220 to 260 with full synthetic oil) due to the high underhood temps.  Coil packs (only early,  and rare,  92/93 engines have a dizzy and a conventional VW coil) fail often on high rev-ers.  Bolted to the side of the head,  the heat makes them crack and fail.  Etc.

I'm not saying the VR is crap,  but from a service viewpoint,  the inline 4 VW diesels are a JOY in comparison.  And still,  can kick arse!

Big fan of Quebec--and Montreal.  I spend a few weeks each summer in Montreal/Mont Tremblanc.

[rallydiesel]

You will never get up to 150whp without a hell of a lot of money. That doesn't mean you can't make a 1.6TD "feel" as fast as a VR6. A VNT15 adapted to run in that engine (you need to rig up a vnt actuator using a regular wastegate actuator or something along those lines as well as modify the downpipe to flange up to the VNT turbo), a simple, small intercooler, and a tweaked injection pump (Giles pump ideally) will make it "feel" as fast as a VR6 and you could probably smoke one (figuratively and literally) off the line in a short drag.

[jtanguay]

You will never get up to 150whp without a hell of a lot of money. That doesn't mean you can't make a 1.6TD "feel" as fast as a VR6. A VNT15 adapted to run in that engine (you need to rig up a vnt actuator using a regular wastegate actuator or something along those lines as well as modify the downpipe to flange up to the VNT turbo), a simple, small intercooler, and a tweaked injection pump (Giles pump ideally) will make it "feel" as fast as a VR6 and you could probably smoke one (figuratively and literally) off the line in a short drag.

well i would have to say that 150 whp is definitely possible on a low budget.. the only real issue is reliability and longetivity.  putting a huge intercooler, opening the exhaust, running 25 psi boost with tons of fuel, gov mod on pump, timing advance mod...  that should run pretty close, but fuel mileage will suck, and you will likely be targeted by enforcement (because of the big soot cloud) and the engine won't last too long running it like that.

[88jetta]

i still cant get it tthrew my head. lmao i really underestemated these diesels. beating a vr never though in my life a TD can smoke a vr in a short drag. 4 banger vs a 6. right now im thinking about FMIC nothing big. just so i get my exast temp. more cool. uhm also thinking bout a bigger exaust front to back and an electronic boost controler. What PSI u think i can be running wit out screwing up my connecting rods ect. dont diesles run at a higher temp then a gasser so cant mount the boost thaat that high. any way i just want sumthing reiable cause thats one reason why i love my vw i want it 2 have sum go and i dont wanna be pulled over by the cops cause of exesive soot. lol even tho i find it so funny shooting black smoke into peoples faces and cars. Espiecally honda civics  :twisted: stupid ricers :twisted: can some one tell me more about the gov mod? ive heard people talk about it but not to sure what it does and why to do it. any ways u guys are really chill didnt expect this many people 2 write. thanks alot

[88jetta]

and yeah mtl is pretty chill place  lol not bad here just hate winter :x  yeah ive heard of all those problems about the vr espeacailly the timing chain. one of my buddies gots a 2.8L vr6 12v running a T3/T4 turbo on it and his timing chian keeps on screwing up. but it still not gonna change my mind. lol its not gonna be a everyday car anyway just a toy car.

[CoolAirVw]

FAQ has some topics on how to squeeze more power.

http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=13