Thanks, clbanman. The car already has the shoulder belts, maybe because it's a later model? Junior is old enough for that route, but not heavy enough yet. That bar wouldn't be the one that's in the panel that hides what's in teh back, would it? there's one there, but it doesn't look nearly heavy enough. I have to go look at a car sometime soon for a headliner, maybe it's got this part too...........