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August 04, 2007, 12:49:01 pm

ISBjornen

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« on: August 04, 2007, 12:49:01 pm »
What is the advantage of drilling from the original 1,9 to 2,1 liter?


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Reply #1August 04, 2007, 03:56:14 pm

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2007, 03:56:14 pm »
will the block even support that?  it would be higher displacement, more power, more fuel consumption, and more problems down the road due to change in compression etc.


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Reply #2August 04, 2007, 04:46:29 pm

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2007, 04:46:29 pm »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
will the block even support that?  it would be higher displacement, more power, more fuel consumption, and more problems down the road due to change in compression etc.


I don't think compression will change, well the compression ratio I mean. Quite frankly, I don't think you can bore it to 2.1. The cylinder walls are gonna be way too thin to support any major power. You can't bore a diesel that much like you can on a gasser.
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Reply #3August 04, 2007, 06:47:28 pm

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2007, 06:47:28 pm »
how much space is there with a 1.9 and a 1.6 between 2 cilinders? i mean how tick is the wall. if its smaller, maybe we realy realy do need more better solutions for headgasketproblems

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Reply #4August 04, 2007, 06:51:51 pm

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2007, 06:51:51 pm »
I know of a 2.0L down this way that is being built for a rabbit pickup :D
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Reply #5August 04, 2007, 09:14:38 pm

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2007, 09:14:38 pm »
using the pistons from an audi 2.5 tdi will yield a 2.0L.  You need 83mm pistons to get 2067cc aka a 2.1L.  That's pretty thin between the cylinders...gassers have taken the block out to 83.5mm

Reply #6August 04, 2007, 09:34:31 pm

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2007, 09:34:31 pm »
Quote from: "Black Smokin' Diesel"
Quote from: "jtanguay"
will the block even support that?  it would be higher displacement, more power, more fuel consumption, and more problems down the road due to change in compression etc.


I don't think compression will change, well the compression ratio I mean. Quite frankly, I don't think you can bore it to 2.1. The cylinder walls are gonna be way too thin to support any major power. You can't bore a diesel that much like you can on a gasser.


if you can find pistons that are exactly the same as required to have the same compression ratio then i guess you're right, but good luck finding it!  :lol:


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Reply #7August 04, 2007, 11:16:19 pm

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2007, 11:16:19 pm »
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The compression ratio does indeed go up when overboring due to the fact that the combustion chamber (the 1 part of the ratio) remains the same yet the volume of the cylinder (the bigger number) increases.

Andrew


Geez major brain fart... you're right. I was only thinking about piston travel (which doesn't change) but didn't compensate for the added volume :oops:
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Reply #8August 05, 2007, 04:43:34 am

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2007, 04:43:34 am »
My Fiat do have 82,6mm pistons, wanna buy a set.  :wink:

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Reply #9August 11, 2007, 10:48:54 am

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2007, 10:48:54 am »
how big i the audii 2,5tdi pistons? im thinking about them, im also planing to try a 1z top and block with oil cooling on the pistons. but whit my 12 mekanikal pump. and 2 step injkectors

ideas?
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Reply #10August 15, 2007, 02:47:11 am

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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 02:47:11 am »
this guy use the 2.5pistons
http://www.centralvwaudi.com/tdi.htm

i think 2step injectors are good for economical, but i think fot best perfomance you better use 1step.

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Reply #11August 15, 2007, 07:09:36 am

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 07:09:36 am »
My pistons are first oversize and that will give a hair less than 2 liters. I think it will give slightly more torque.

Reply #12August 17, 2007, 03:10:39 am

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2007, 03:10:39 am »
I will be running 2 step ionjectors, will alos use a 1Z top butt whit the aaz injector pump, maby ill use the 1Z bottom becuse of the oil cooling on the pistons.
Kristensen

Reply #13August 17, 2007, 05:45:04 am

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 05:45:04 am »
Quote from: "ISBjornen"
maby ill use the 1Z bottom becuse of the oil cooling on the pistons.


All turbodiesels have oil cooling on the pistons, and if you use a 1Z top, you gotta use a 1Z bottom :wink:

Reply #14August 17, 2007, 02:12:12 pm

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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 02:12:12 pm »
non of the 4 AAZ enigens i have worked whit have it.
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